worldoptimization

I feel like I don’t spend nearly enough time thinking about the relative importance of things, you know?

I wanna start doing something like: whenever I hear someone mention a problem, or read about it on twitter, or think about it and get annoyed, try and calculate how bad it is and place it on a list.

I started this today and here’s what I have so far: numbers are really bullshit but I feel like it can be nice to just try to get the relative senses of things?

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baconmancr

May I ask why you picked wild fish suffering? Was it just easier to calculate than all wild animal suffering, or would it somehow be easier to address? Who is talking about wild fish suffering that prompted you to add it to your list?

worldoptimization

yeah it seemed easier to calculate just for fish :P

my vague impression is that there aren’t actually that many wild mammals and birds, so to the extent wild animal suffering is a big problem it’s prob coming from fish, insects, and other dumber animals.

I don’t think anyone was talking about it, I just added it on as a natural comparison to factory farming. I was trying to just do proportional to number of neurons as a dumb baseline prior (idk if that’s the right way to think about it or if I got the numbers right)