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jezi-belle

So I have a genuine curiosity:

What do people in the US outside the South drink with meals at home? Like, growing up every day, what got served as a drink with dinner? Obviously at a restaurant you order soda and stuff, but what was common at home? Do they keep sodas and such at home and serve it consistently, or what?

I know down here it’s sweet tea, and I know that’s foreign to the rest of the country, so I’m curious. Reblog if you can, I’m interested in as many responses as I can get.

mazarinedrake

When I was a kid I had a glass of milk with dinner every night, but these days I usually have soda. I grew up in Oregon. 

mercurialmalcontent

From what little I can remember, tap water or Kool-aid (because Kool-aid is cheap and we were poor). I grew up in Eastern Oregon.

rainbowbarnacle

I grew up near Saint Louis. Usually we had tap water, sometimes coca-cola if we ordered a pizza or something. For barbecues and summery family gatherings and stuff, sometimes we’d make sun tea. (usually two batches, one sweetened and one unsweetened)

littlepinkbeast

Michigan: milk or water, or lemonade in summer.

the-rain-monster

When I was growing up it was milk or Tang on military bases in various parts of the country. Now it’s tap water, sometimes wine or fruit juice.

jumpingjacktrash

minnesota: milk or fruit juice when i was a kid. pop, iced tea (not sweet tea, but earl grey or herbal brewed with a tea bag and then poured over ice), or iced coffee as i got older.

my parents would sometimes have a bottle of beer or a glass of wine instead, and now that i’m middle-aged i do that too. not every meal but when it was something that harmonized, you know? wine with pasta, beer with burgers or steak, lemon shandy with fried chicken, that sort of thing.

even though it’s cold as a republican’s heart half the year here, we almost never have hot drinks with dinner. i don’t know why. i have hot coffee with breakfast, hot tea with a peanut butter sandwich for lunch, but with a sit-down dinner i always want a big glass of something cold. i don’t even like red wine at dinner because it’s served room temperature – gotta be a nice cold white. or sake, i like sake cold during dinner and hot with dessert. no clue why. it’s just what i like. *shrug*

funereal-disease

The idea of drinking with a meal is really weird to me. My family only ever did water. If I want a booze drink, I typically have it before or after dinner, not during. 

I drank pretty much only water growing up. Other beverages were treated like snacks: nice for the taste, but not a thirst-quencher. To this day, water is the only thing that ever quenches my thirst. Any other liquid just makes me thirstier. 

bartlebyshop

My parents insisted we have milk with every meal, even with things it really doesn’t make sense to pair milk with, like steak with red wine based sauce. Adults drank wine at the table, or very rarely beer. We had pop in the fridge but that was only to have with snacks, never with a meal.

marcusseldon

As a little kid I always had milk or juice, occasionally soda. At some point in my early teens I started mostly drinking water with meals, and I’ll have alcohol with my meal on the rare occasions I drink it.

severnayazemlya

I grew up in the South, but nobody in my family likes sweet tea. We almost always drank water at meals, even at restaurants. When we didn’t drink water, we drank seltzer (or tonic water, in my dad’s case), but that was usually because the tap water tasted awful or wasn’t potable, which was not uncommon.

nihilsupernum

russian jewish, grew up in a lot of places but mostly new england and california; usually tap water or sparkling water, occasionally milk if it makes sense with the food, small amounts of wine on friday past age 13. everyone got their own beverage if it’s nonalcoholic.

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New England

when I was a kid I had milk with every meal

at some point in high school I switched to hot tea with breakfast (because I needed it to stay awake in first period), unsweetened iced tea with lunch (what my mom did, my dad had Coke), and red wine and seltzer with dinner (what both my parents did)

I drank soda on occasion when I was a kid but don’t really anymore. I’ve never drunk much water

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I.

The other day I was asking someone why he didn’t identify as an EA. “I’m just not a very moral person,” he said. “Oh,” I hastened to reassure him, “I mean, me neither.”

II.

I was thinking about Scott’s recent post on his trouble with accepting that animals have moral value. Lots of people have trouble with this, and lots of other people will tell you it’s because it’s really hard to accept that you’re committing a horribly immoral act every time you eat a steak. But I realized I’ve always found that kind of odd, because for me it wasn’t hard at all.

I think I always implicitly believed that animals mattered. But my first contact with animal rights memes wasn’t until high school, when I learned that animals on factory farms lead really terrible lives. And my reaction was, “Okay. I guess eating meat is really terrible then.” And I kept on eating meat for the next three years, eating less and less and eventually realizing that I’d found enough vegetarian foods I liked that going vegetarian wouldn’t be much of an inconvenience.

When I heard the Peter Singer drowning child thought experiment, my reaction was, “Hmm, I guess spending money on myself beyond the basic requirements of living rather than donating it is morally equivalent to murder. Maybe I should start donating 10%.”

When I heard that animals farmed for eggs and milk suffer just as much as those farmed for meat (this somehow never occurred to high school me) my reaction was, “Okay, I guess eating eggs and milk is morally equivalent to torturing animals for fun.” This was two years ago and giving up dairy is still on my to-do list, somewhere between “read more books” and “learn to do makeup.” But it took me about a day to intellectually accept the idea, and right now I eat ice cream all the time and feel no guilt at all.

III.

I think if I were more scrupulous I would be more inclined to extreme acts of altruism. I’d be more likely to give, say, 50% of my income (once I get a job) if I had some guilt motivating me; as it is I don’t know if I’ll have enough willpower to give that much. But my lack of scrupulosity does make it easier to take moral ideas seriously, and I think as an EA that’s really important.

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Tagged by funereal-disease :)

Nameworldoptimization

Nicknames: none really (those who share at least 50% of my genes have been known to call me Car or Scoog)

Birthday: November 1

Age: 20

Gender: woman

Sexual Orientation: straight

Significant Other: none

Work/School: junior studying math and CS

Favorite Color: gray

Time and Date: 10:49 am on January 24

Average Hours of Sleep: 8

Last thing I googled: “offer it up”

(this is what my mom tells me when I complain about something and I was wondering if it’s a common expression among non-Catholics but nope, purely a suggestion to offer up your suffering to the souls in purgatory)

Number of blankets I sleep under: two

Favorite Shows: Game of Thrones, Arrested Development, Silicon Valley, Downton Abbey, The West Wing, 30 Rock, Sherlock, Girls

Favorite Food: according to my roommate, “All you eat is scones and Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. And pasta. And chickpeas.”

Favorite Drunk Food: Pirate’s Booty

Favorite Place to Shop for Clothes: H&M

Last Movie I Saw in Theaters: The Imitation Game (with my 11-year-old sister who afterwards commented, “I think the movie would have been a lot better if it had a happy ending”)

Last Book I Read: Permutation City by Greg Egan (really good in case you were wondering)

A Place That Makes Me Happy: my grandparents’ farm, my kitchen at home, upscale malls, the ski trails in Jackson, NH, that fountain outside the Harvard Science Center

What are you doing today? going to see a play in San Francisco, then heading to a charity gala afterwards! my life is so glamorous

tagging nobody (I am less virtuous than theunitofcaring clearly) but consider yourself tagged if you feel like it

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nihilsupernum

ok so i don’t really understand the sj/feminist/whatever framework beyond what ive seen on tumblr and have no interest in doing so, so i might be using the words wrong

however

veganism/vegitarianism is not a privilege. it is associated with rich people, but it’s not actually expensive. grain is cheap, meat is $$$. veganism* can be human-capital-expensive; junk food is easier to procure and eat, etc., etc., but the concept of being “too poor to be vegan” is confused.

i am not a vegan because i am a moral nihilist and see no need to be. i would be willing to eat human flesh were it not socially unacceptable/psychologically a bad idea/likely to get me sent to jail

the idea of saving animals by being a vegan is basically homeopathy anyway if the counterfactual is buying meat from stores that buy it from larger suppliers that but it from… certainly if an animal is already dead and nobody will know you are of it no harm is done.

but anyway, if you think veganism is a moral imperative and aren’t a vegan, look into things like ordering grain in bulk online

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I mostly agree on the privilege thing except it is true that being vegetarian has a social cost that varies depending on the community you’re in and that’s definitely correlated with wealth

as someone who’s tried to eat vegetarian at restaurants in rural Indiana and ended up eating salad and fries for dinner, I can see why someone from rural Indiana would get annoyed at someone from an urban Blue Tribe enclave being like “but it’s so easy to be vegetarian, every restaurant has at least five clearly marked vegetarian options!”

also being vegan doesn’t really save animals, I think the main reason to do it is if you think animals on factory farms have lives not worth living and you want to reduce demand for animal products thereby preventing some of them from being born in the first place

(main utilitarian reason that is, most vegans are probably so for non-utilitarian reasons)